Men's Rights Movement

[ionelv]

I went down a rabbit hole that started with Jordan Peterson's disturbing grandma dream, the red pill/black pill concept and then looking into Men's Rights Movement. Cassie Jaye gave a 14min TED talk about her experience and transformation making The Red Pill. Then I read about Norah Vincent's Self-Made Man book documenting her 18-month experiment living as a man. 

I am somewhat sympathetic to the idea of men's rights, yet I am struck by the poor level of discourse in this space (e.g. the above doc and book). I have a few observations:

* MRM's antifeminism and other questionable targets are self-defeating by distracting and not really moving the conversation forward by attracting lots of (mostly) well-deserved criticism

*  There is little discussion around class inequalities (that negatively and disproportionately impact lower-class men, e.g. riskier jobs, military's constant need for cannon fodder, police and the violence it perpetuates on both sides, courts and prisons, a crumbling education system that possibly affects men more), sketchy religious influence (e.g. Bible's built-in patriarchy) and toxic gender roles (e.g. see Johnson's Gender Knot and his Tree of Patriarchy) which in my opinion are (although overlapping at times) bigger underlying reasons for men's troubles than feminism, uneven domestic abuse support, the courts/law treatment of men in custody/divorce/rape cases or other causes which MRM usually focuses on.

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[miv4s]

Men’s rights, feminism, etc. are symptoms of equal rights, already in existence on paper, not being enforced because of racism, misogyny, religion, xenophobia, and countless other -isms..